1.11.17
on February 12, 2021
at 3:00 am
she’s just mad cuz he interrupted her monologue with an actually good point
Aurora
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she’s just mad cuz he interrupted her monologue with an actually good point
okay i would call her the ‘b’ word, but since i’m too nice, i’m just gonna say dude, too far
No, I’d say an omnicidal maniac is worthy of being called a bitch
Really, if you can’t call an omnicidal manic a bitch, when who *can* you call one?
calling her that would be an insult to female dogs
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
interesting theory ya got there, collector
It’d be a shame if someone started poking holes in it…
Is the collector implying that she could restore/revive the city of Vash?
I don’t think so – she says that she can heal primordials, but not un-heal primodrials. The way I read it, she’s saying it as a hypothetical.
what the Collector MISSES is that it wouldn’t be the same if she “brought back” Vash. Vash is GONE. The people are GONE. That can’t be returned to the city. There was loss that can never be recovered from even if the city WAS reconstituted, and what do you give up if you try and get it back? Likewise, Life is something similar, and the Collector doesn’t even know how much Life seems to care about creatures she makes up and not being used to twist things. And if she knew? I don’t think she’d care. She’s lost sight of so much of humanity that she can’t see that anymore, and I wonder if what Gleicann said about her always being human due to inborn nature even applies anymore.
Something I think is especially interesting is the contrast between Vash and Kendal about their outlooks on death.
Vash talks about how everything dies and it’s not about the dying but what is left behind- it’s what Alinua wanted when she tried to go out doing something good saving Kendal, it’s an outlook that makes sense when you consider that Vash is a GOD who’s known a hundred thousand mortal lives, people who lived and died for generations. He KNOWS that people die, and he KNOWS what they leave behind, and we know that he cared so deeply for every citizen but always knew to let them go because there would always be a time when they had to pass on. This is very literally WHAT he is- generations and generations of people, passing on and leaving things behind.
But Kendal, despite his knowledge from Vash, CANNOT STAND to let people die. Not if he can do something about it. Because he was BORN out of the deaths of thousands of innocents killed by a single person, and he doesn’t know how to grapple with any of it, because he has this deep seated need to protect and if he can’t protect then it must be his fault. He cannot stand to be idle or helpless in the way Vash was in the face of the Collector while she destroyed his city. Vash talks about how the worth of a life is what they leave behind, but the deaths of Vash? They didn’t leave behind anything- only their souls, screaming for help from a prison they should have never been trapped in.
And these outlooks make so much sense when put in the context of where they’re coming from! But they’re so interconnected and deeply linked to one another that while also being so dissonant that it. It’s a lot.
This’ll look familiar to people on the Discord lmao
yes
That is very interesting. Good points all around.
I may be overthinking it, but I think her last comment is a nice little interaction to highlight. Her logic seems a little lacking; you’d think she should see the difference between the two given circumstances. Perhaps a jab at Vash in retaliation for making a good point, or maybe just a passive display of her own twisted morality? Either way, love it!
I kinda think she might have meant it, though she did make that face when he made that point. There’s no way a single mountain/small piece of Stone’s body is equivalent to all life on Earth and the fact she doesn’t realize that has got to be either that twisted morality you mentioned or confirmation bias. Both are scary, and it’s really convenient that the 2 bad guys that need defeating are in the same approximate area
Small thing, but The Collector’s profile now has a link to the page before this one.
And we now know, that the Primordials also gave their life to protect everyone else from the Void Dragon.
So yeah, Life comes back, we’re screwed.
Void dragon wins, we’re screwed.
Though I do wonder what Life thinks about someone trying to revive her body
Given her reaction to forced mutation and apparent understanding of her part in the world, I’m not sure she’d react well to it, especially since part of her body is in the adamant as well as the flora and fauna. Actually, since VD needed an elemental magus to break the adamant is it even possible to reconstitute Life’s body? Could the Collector wind up working with VD as part of her plot to fix her mistake?
Collector: I will kill everything! For Life!
So it is confirmed that her plan would kill everything, good to get that clarified. I wonder who’s frowning more, Kendal in panel 2 after hearing her plan or Vash would be after the Collector’s low blow.
I wonder what would happen if the Collector would make contact with Life again. Could that be the main purpose of Alinua? As a emissary for Life to contact and talk the Collector out of her plans? Or even to alter her plans so she is resurrected on a smaller scale so life on Aurora remains untouched?
Whatever the case a confrontation between the Collector and Alinua seems nothing short of inevitable.
TL;DR: Glowing blue orb pries deeper into troglodyte villain’s plans, she reveals she is out to kill everything in exchange for 10-eyes’ return. They engage in a logic battle.
*Ace Attorney music starts playing*
OBJECTION!
Solid evil plan, I don’t think Life would really thank her, or be happy if she succeeded, she seemed pretty protective of living things when Alinua was out.
Yeah, from what we’ve seen Life actually cares for living things and treasures them. So I can’t really see her super happy with Chimera mom, after she realises she killed everything to bring her back.
She realizes mountains don’t have souls, right? A mountain can’t “die”. It can’t get worn down but that’s not the same. Way to completely miss the point.
*can get worn down
My response from Vash POV:
true, I would not mind the mountain turning back into the city, but the mountain hasn’t developed it’s own true identity. If there was a soul bound to that mountain, a nature spirit with that mountain as their domain, it would be one thing, but until something like that happens, that mountain is just a piece of rock.
conversely, it hardly matters if the city comes back or not, because the important parts, the soul, the identity of the city, either still exist or are already eradicated. I exist regardless of the state of the city, and my people are dead regardless of if the city were built again. It sucks that the city was destroyed, but the legacy lives on.
Also, while Vash wouldn’t tell the collector, there is also the thing with Kendal. Vash’s physical form is being used by someone else, and he doesn’t seem to mind much. The material form doesn’t much matter, that can be replaced, what matters in the history, the heritage, and the identity.
We’re starting to get some Stormlight archive level w
Quotes out of aurora jeez
Me: “Who on earth posts anything at 3AM!?”
Red: “OH BOY 3 AM!!!”
Have I mentioned that I think it’s interesting that the Collector’s whole motivation is to fix a mistake she made? I mean, that’s noble and if Life’s in pain she doesn’t deserve that, but this isn’t the way to go about making it right.
Collectors idea to save the world:
DEATH FOR THE LIFE GOD!!!!!!!
Not really a fair comparison. The Primordials sound like they willingly died for the world. Also, life would just die again if she was released from her part of the void dragon’s prison, since he’d get loose again and they’d just given up the one thing that let the primordials beat him.
Considering how Life reacted to those chimeras in that forest, I really doubt she’ll be happy with your idea of “restoring” her.
“The worth of a life isn’t in how long it lasts, but in what it leaves behind when it ends.”
Freakin’ poetry man. I love poetic lines in stories, so this is making my brain go absolutely nutty with joy.
very late but this was all I could think about after seeing this
step 1: dissect Vash’s soul
step 2: kill everyone on the planet and extract Life’s essence
step 3: ???
step 4: profit
alternate tl;dr:
“You’re such a tank that if I can kill you, I can kill everyone!” *darker voice* “and I do intend to kill everyone.”
Collector, that is NOT the same thing. Vash’s people didn’t sacrifice themselves for a better world, they were murdered by YOU.
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low blow, dude
Fuck, why does she make sense?
Oh boi we’re getting philosophical-
Image source: destroy
unfortunately it kinda seems like she might be right.
I do think The Collector inadvertently saved the world, let me explain. If Life isn’t awoken, then Alinua never gets life powers, meaning she never scares Vidi the first time he possesses Erin, then Vidi takes him down into the caves and frees himself, destroying the world. And if she hadn’t removed Vash’s soul from his incarnation then Kendal never brings Alinua out into the real world, meaning Alinua isn’t there to scare Vidi and the world is destroyed. The Collector saved the world she wants to destroy, I’m coining a new term, The Collector’s Gambit, it’s when a villain who wants to destroy the world accidentally saves it
I think I wanna make it when a villain would win if they didn’t try to win, it happens a lot in media and it’s even more of a slap in the face if the protagonists realise it and taunt them about it. It happens alot in media, a plot point in Harry Potter is that if Voldy never attacked Harry, then Harry could of never stopped Voldy. In Pokemon Sun/Moon/Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon, Faba sends the protagonists on a goose chase to get a bunch of Aether members to fight the protagonists in a pokemon battle, but Hau points out if Faba just hid then they would never be able to get the key card? I think? The leads fo the place where the main villain’s hiding. It happens alot in media
“Let Justice be done and the World perish.”