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on December 23, 2024
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Aurora
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Alt-text: me when there’s a charcuterie board on the menu if I’m being honest
Image source: crucible
The Smith God encourages to refine Void
See the truth that is more than destruction deployed
Thinking about the last panel, and now I wonder: Is the essence of hunger desire? Or want, or whatever pretentious word we use? ‘Cause the implication is that it has something to do with how Dainix feels about Falst. (Desire in this case in whatever form, so for Dainix maybe something like the desire to help Falst.) What do y’all think?
The thought crossing my mind is that the core element of hunger might be *nutrition*. After all, it’s been heavily implied that the missing element that the Void Dragon has implanted in living creatures, but which is missing in homunculuses created from the six elements known to most mages, is the ability to incorporate new matter into themselves in order to maintain their bodies.
Walter interprets that purely through a selfish lens – “I will make everything into part of myself” – but providing nutrition to others might also be within the domain. Furthermore, given that each of the well-known elements has a physical manifestation and a metaphysical one, it’s possible that Walter doesn’t just represent physical nutrition, but spiritual nutrition. Which could include things like friendship, caring for others, and being cared for when needed.
If it turns out that the Soul Monks CAN help with the Void Dragon, that might be part of the key – a mystical organisation (that isn’t already dedicated to some other entity) might be sufficiently in tune with their own spirituality to be able to invoke that side of the ‘hunger’ domain.
I agree with Draxynic, I think at its core hunger is the need for something.
The Void dragon doesn’t see that because he is too proud and arrogant to need anything, so he simply takes everything he can and destroys it. But without that presence, needing something becomes as simple as asking or accepting help. I think Tahraim’s implication is less about Dainix’s desire to help Falst being similarly to hunger, but rather that the feeling, needing help and connection, is something Dainix would be familiar with by seeing it is Falst. Likewise in the same way he helped Falst, Falst is now here to help him.
panel 1 “It doesn’t even know what it’s so desperate to have”
Hear me out lore guys, the Void element’s true form is the despair of going out with friends but no one knows what they want to eat
I laughed uncomfortably loudly at this, too loud for 4am. *glances around*
SCP (insert number) is now coming for you.
Ah, that’s sweet.
Tahraim’s the sort of deity to see a world ending threat and ask ‘is anyone gonna redeem that?’, then actually wait for an answer because they’re genuinely interested.
I susspect he also sees Dainix as Fire being reborn or maybe just recovering as an avitar / personification.
Light and void are the same. Erin was right, there is no eigth element. Anything the void dragon can do the light dragon can, because they are equal and opposite.
Both are, I think, wanting, needing and aspiring towards something. Where Void scrabbles for scraps, Light reaches for the stars.
The dragon hungers, to kill everybody and destroy everything that exists. The crucible hungers for something else. Fire is often seen as destructive and violent, and this opinion is not incorrect, however fire is also a beacon, it is warmth and light, and helps to protect that which you love. And sometimes, the answer is right in front of you. *Winks*
It’s 5:00 am it’s too early for this cryptid crap AND YOU AREN’T HELPING! -Sulkily sips hot chocolate- also if that logic is correct I’m pretty sure the philosophic lesson of the day is that desire isn’t bad. Literally just replace hunger with desire and would you look at that. Well it kinda works. You made two points about hungering then one about how fire can protect which is like me going “collector desires to have souls, Kendal wants to save everyone, and did you know Kendal has starfire” which feels very off topic.
Is the feeling love? Is that what it is? Is that the divine wisdom? The power of love? I’m good with it; I just want to know.
Tahrim is implying that Void is an impure form of hunger, and that Dainix can melt it into it’s pure form. He also implied that he’s already done it on reflex before. This means that Void is actually an impure form of Light, rather than both of them being direct equals. I’m incredibly intrigued by the implications of this in regards to both VD and LD’s creation though. If LD is the pure form, then what happened to birth VD?
Also, throwing my guess into the mix, I think hunger might actually be protection/preservation. We see LD’s whole thing be protecting others, and hunger serves to replenish and preserve a body. Side note: I wonder if we’ll get to see Dainix sharing this wildly scientifically important thing with Erin, and if so, how long it will take until both of them have a chance to talk about it. My guess around Halloween 2025 when they are recovering from the assault of the Collector, which is assuming any of the protagonists get to catch their breath within the next 5 chapters
Wait so if void is the element that love is derived from (or at least sexual love) is that why Kendal is ace?
Now to lama past aught that is nay fire. Ooooooooowwwwwwwwww.
Might we all just take a moment to appreciate those waves in the background?
Tahraim continues to be peak
Dainix: … I feel … the festive spirit of Brennsday?
Tahraim: … Eh, close enough.
So, his transmutation of that Void in Zuurith was an instinctual response to being attacked? That makes sense, and explains why his interaction with Void now, with him being the attacker rashly transmuting a Light shield, is so different.
This whole conversation has me convinced that Tahraim’s forging of Dainix for Caliban is still ongoing; encouraging him to get out of prison himself was just part one of many. Next part: upgrade his transmutation power from subconscious instinct to conscious intent.
An entire element and higher property with untold potential to shape the world and how people live their lives, and all V.D. sees it as is a means for him to devour stars. Tahraim has said before how he hates waste, and I’m betting he must hate how V.D. squanders this power. I wonder if he may be secretly excited by the possibility of a Void mage in Erin.
Now there’s an interesting thought. Is L.D.’s essence transmuted Void into a new substance, or is it a purer version of what Void could be if not under the control of V.D.? It could represent bodily hunger, but could it also be longing for companionship, family, to want experiences shared with others and to share back? One feeds the body, another the mind and soul. Maybe L.D. awoke the mortal wills not in spite of Void present in them, but because of it.
Void could be like any other element, only as good or evil as the wielder, were it not for V.D. still exerting his influence on it. Probably just as well Life is keeping a mostly hands-off approach to her element.
Aurora Question #30: What are your personal feelings on Tahraim and his character?
I love Tahraim! I feel like he plays the role of the almost-always-absent-mentor to Danix, and mentors nearly always end up being my favorite characters. He knows stuff and is mysterious about it but still tells Danix (and us!) all kinds of fun things. And like all fun characters, he’s mysterious 🙂
10/10 he’s great and 1 of my favorites. Riddles are fun! Sometimes! Some days I’ll probably won’t to punch him in the face but I’m pretty sure that’s just part of the experience of loving the cryptic mentor. So he’s perfect really!
I’m starting to believe that even Red is shipping Dainix and Falst.
… just now?
Ah yes, hungry for cat-boy. A common emotion we are all familiar with.
Hunger is fire