Red talked about this being a problem in the podcast after Those Dang Phones, but there are still lots of ways she could rein these arcane messenger birds in… there’s no evidence that they’re not prohibitively expensive for ordinary people, for instance.
Or only work within the domain of a god who dedicates a constant trickle of power to enabling them. Or get truly terrible eatheric interference over long distances. Or the messages get eaten by magical predators just like regular carrier pigeons. Etc.
Tess: Yo! Sorry to interrupt you oppressing Mr Dictator Sir. But you got a funky storm hanging round that needs looking into.
Zuurith: What?! how did you get in?!?
Tess (going back out the door): Same way I’m getting out.
Tess (sticking her head back in): Also tell that b*tch back in the market district that I’m F*cking hilarious.
Really? It was literally the first thing that came to mind upon reading that panel, and since I have a hard time understanding people I didn’t know if it would sound right.
My humor was the worst for years but for some reason it’s been getting better lately. Whatever the cause, it’s great to finally be funny to some people.
I think she’s looking at Kendal. Because previous page, but also in her Tumblr asks Red says Kendal moves really unnaturally, including but not limited to no shaking, shifting, or other involuntary movements.
Okay, I don’t know what voices Red actually imagines these characters having, but this comic has cemented the idea that this Metal-Caste girl (“Tess”, was it?) sounds EXACTLY LIKE RED in my head.
Maybe it’s just me
Sorrynotsorry
Oh no. Now I can’t unhear Red’s voice as Tess and the guards as Blue and Cyan. This totally changed how I read this page. Thanks Master Spoiler and Aodh for this idea that is now cemented into my brain.
I love it when background characters like guards and stuff have personality! It makes everything feel way more real (as real as a high fantasy adventure can be, anyway.)
I get that spears are the most common and inexpensive weapon to arm soldiers with, but it also is ridiculously impractical to use in the city streets, at least give them bola or cudgels or something. But the armor is actually pretty good, rather realistic. But I would have loved to see some sort of heraldry for zurrith.
Heraldry? I get that gods have symbols associated with them, but they’re usually put on emissary sigils and important structures, not on armor. This is a fictional high-fantasy world; don’t expect it to be exclusively similar to medieval Europe.
Although I’d agree that guards should also carry some shorter weapon, in case of indoor fighting, why do you say that spears are impractical to use in the city streets? Based on my reading and experience, I’d think they’d work quite well for the kind of work Zuurith’s guards would be expected to do. Here’s a wall of text explaining why, assuming that Zuurithian martial arts developed similarly to their medieval and Renaissance European counterparts:
First, spears are great weapons for, well, injuring people. They’re surprisingly fast, hit very hard, and offer superior range to most other hand weapons even when not thrown. This last is much more important than it appears at first glance; a longer weapon allows you to get the first hit in, but also you can offend against a sword-wielding enemy’s entire body at the ranges that they can first hit your hand. There’s a reason they were the primary weapon of war for millennia.
Secondly, spears make great less-lethal weapons, as well. They can be used as pretty good grappling aids, and have enough leverage and mass to deliver shockingly powerful blows when used as batons or staves. Add that to the mass and protection afforded by the guards’ armor, and they should be well-equipped for both grappling and bludgeoning their enemies into surrender.
And finally, and most importantly for law enforcement, spears are intimidating. They’re a constantly-present, highly-lethal piece of sharp steel that can be brought into play at a moment’s notice, at any range between one and ten feet. To put it into modern terms, it’s the difference between a pistol carried on a belt versus a battle rifle carried at low ready; one of them is a lot more likely to stop a fight by its mere presence than the other.
I don’t know your background, and you might have more knowledge than I on this topic. Most of my knowledge comes from Eric Lowe’s “The Use of Medieval Weaponry.”
The guards have a sense of humor.
As much as everyone else seems to dislike Zuurith, I’d like to point out that there are people who prefer more structured environments and that just because Zuurith puts an emphasis on law and order, he isn’t necessarily evil. I kind of like the place, even with the prison.
…Kendal also alluded that Zuurith is discriminatory. “Vash loved mortals for their chaotic individuality. Zuurith seems to hate them for the same reason.” His system of law and order most likely pushes down entire demographics just for being themselves, and that extends past the law to the culture, like that clerk who microaggressed Falst. I wouldn’t be surprised if Zuurith punishes political dissenters and protesters, too. So you saying you like the place kind of concerns me.
(Especially since I live in the U.S., where many parts of the country are now actively trying to punish political dissenters and protesters, and where discrimination has been an integral part of politics and culture since before the nation’s inception.)
I’m going to play devil’s advocate on this one. While I believe everyone is likely correct when they think that Zuurith is a jerk, I’d argue that strictly speaking we don’t have enough information within the comic to say that for sure. So far, we only have two pieces of information: 1) Kendal’s statement that he crushes individuality (known via Vash), and 2) they have a big prison. While 2) is a bit harder to explain, 1) could be explained as a piece of propaganda between rival cities.
While both Vash, and especially Kendal, seem to be nice people, we don’t know how much “psychic backwash” the gods get from their cities. It’s pretty easy to imagine a rivalry starting between two cities competing over trade routes, for example. It could start with traders from Vash (the city) saying “oh yes, I hate that city because their god oppresses his people, and definitely not because of the high tariffs he charges”. If enough of them start thinking that way, how would Vash be affected?
While I highly doubt that this is the way this story will go, I could totally see an alternative version of this story that shows Vash and Zuurith as equally morally grey. Unfortunately, I believe that most of hatred towards Zuurith stems from a heavy dose of protagonist-centered-morality, rather than an informed moral judgement.
Your question of whether the very thoughts of Vash’s subjects affect his own opinions is an interesting one, but I doubt it. Although people thought Gleicann’s forest was scary, and this was reflected in his incarnation, his personality seemed quite docile for the most part (let’s just pretend he didn’t “I have no mouth and I must scream” Dr. Jolon at the end there) and he was very self-aware of his image.
I suppose that, just as the body affects the mind and the mind affects the body, the citizens of Vash would have a certain effect on him, but not enough to manipulate his personal opinions. Vash was very much an individual as well as a city, and when Kendal refers to Vash and Zuurith not getting along, that sounds more like a personal history rather than a political one. And I don’t see the need for propaganda against Zuurith; they weren’t at war. Moreover, I think its a stretch that there would be enough external anti-Zuurith sentiment to cause Vash to dislike Zuurith personally.
Even if we have limited information on Zuurith’s society, what we do know is enough, I think, for us to judge him as a decently bad guy without Protagonist-Antagonist dynamics:
1) Vash told the Collector that she’d be hailed as a hero for destroying Zuurith.
2) Our first impression of Zuurith’s citizens was a product of systemic racism.
3) Not only does Vash not like Zuurith, but neither do Caliban and Tahraim appear to, since they seem to be scheming against him.
4) Erin’s awkwardness over bringing Falst and Alinua to Zuurith implies that he too acknowledges the city’s tyranny.
5) Zuurith’s got a massive prison. That is troubling, since it indicates an extreme, and possibly unjust, focus on law enforcement. And since I love to use the USA as a punching bag, as of June 2020, the USA had 2,121,600 prisoners, meaning it has more prisoners than any other nation. To put that into context, China has a population more than 4 times larger than the USA, but ‘only’ held 1,710,000 prisoners as of June 2020 (which is still a lot, but is proportionally significantly less). And we all know what the USA’s law enforcement is like.
In conclusion, don’t defend Zuurith because Red clearly designed the character with a certain moral judgement in mind, and straying from that judgement brings your character into question.
I agree with all of your points, except for your conclusion. I think that we should defend Zuurith, in order to draw an informed conclusion. In this case, I’m certain that Zuurith is in the wrong, but I put way too much time into thinking about it from both sides. That’s why I’m certain; I tried to defend Zuurith, and ultimately decided that it was a futile task. I’m sorry if this comes across as rude or redundant. That’s not my intension at all, I just wanted to bring another point into the discussion.
I think with Zuurith it is important to understand that regardless of negative effects it may have on the people, Zuurith himself opperates on a system of ideals that he sees as right. As Red has said previously, Zuurith is of the opinion that if everyone followed his rules the world would be a much better place.
It’s not about whether or not Zuurith is bad or good, it’s that based on what we’ve seen of his ideals, he made the laws he did because he thought that that would objectively be the best way to establish peace and protect his people. He likely honestly believes himself to be someone working for good, just because Vash and Zuurith don’t get along doesn’t mean that one purely good and one is purely evil, it’s simply a case of clashing of ideals and personal philosophies.
I think of it as a moral alignment chart in D&D actually, with Zuurith acting as purely Lawful, valuing laws as the best way to achieve good, while Vash is all about celebrating the Chaotic, (so long as it doesn’t hurt anyone).
A theif will see the law as an enemy, and the law will see an enemy in the theif. It’s a contrast of ideals, not a contrast between the moral binary of ‘good vs evil’.
i actually think it’s really smart of Red to write the characters this way, it’s a matter of cause and effect. It’s bad for the characters and it’s bad for a lot of people sure, and there’s definitely commentary to be made in regards to narrative relations to the real world, but Zuurith seems to be more of a ‘Ends justify the means’ type rather than ‘a bad guy who likes having control and punishing people’.
my point here is that both outlooks are in a way correct, Zuurith values control, but he doesn’t imprison all the people he does because he is a bad person, he does it because HE thinks he’s right.
and yeah, that is messed up and has many, many terrible effects on other people, but nobody does something like this without thinking they have a good reason for it. Zuurith may be seen as a tyrant to some, but I’d say he’s far from the type of Big Brother antagonist most people would come to expect. Kendal was right, there are rules, and to Zuurith, so long as people don’t do or are what Zuurith sees as ‘bad’ then really he has no problem with them.
Gods seem to opperate a lot like this, they each have their own ways of running things. and it’s awful sure, but this is how Zuurith chooses to run his domain. Does it make him a bad person? sure, in some respects. But does that mean he is purely evil and anyone who thinks he is good is wrong? nooooo
Well now they have officially taken it too far. How dare Zuurith outlaw sitting on rooftops? Where else are you supposed to sit when you want brood during an emotional scene? On a bench? Like a normal person? This is an outrage.
I get what you mean, but I think you should take into consideration that because this comics audience are able to ask questions about the world directly to the author, people already know that Zuurith isn’t a great place for minorities. I think it’s been said that godless wandering too close to the city can get caught in raids and given an automatic prison sentence because there assumed to be bandits if they aren’t under the domain of a city god. Plus even inside the comic Erin didn’t exactly refute kendals assertion about Zuurith, even though he was trying to sell the place to them. If that was just vash propaganda, then the son of a diplomat from a city that appears To be on ok terms with Zuurith Would probably have said something about it. I do get what you mean about protag centred morality though and under different circumstances I might agree with you.
The guard is wrong. Tess KNOWS she’s hilarious.
Well it’s nice to know that Zuurith’s guards aren’t total jerks, the grey one hoping that she doesn’t get into serious trouble.
So PML is tracking Tynan and has deduced, at least, the storm isn’t moving as it would naturally. For Tynan being on the horizon very little seems to be happening in the city, if the Crows Head plains god sensed Tynan Zuurith must be able to do so as well. Maybe he’s is keeping the shadow of thunder’s presence a secret to prevent panic.
GIRL IVANS???
I LOVE TESS SO MUCH
Ivan and Vanya are on the case!
Wait, het name is Tess? Where was that confirmed?
Tess is the metal lady, Ivan is a nickname for the guards (at least it was for those in Windcrest and Hilltop)
As for where it as confirmed: it technically hasn’t been yet, but people found it in the names of the files of the sketches
Wait, the guards are women? I honestly cannot tell.
One of them (the one on the right) is.
Well… That’s probably not gonna end well for those guards…
Wait, they have magic walkie-talkies?
Neat!
Actually wait they’re more like Instant Messengers.
Still, they’re cool!
They’ve got dictation in the dictatorship
Red talked about this being a problem in the podcast after Those Dang Phones, but there are still lots of ways she could rein these arcane messenger birds in… there’s no evidence that they’re not prohibitively expensive for ordinary people, for instance.
Or only work within the domain of a god who dedicates a constant trickle of power to enabling them. Or get truly terrible eatheric interference over long distances. Or the messages get eaten by magical predators just like regular carrier pigeons. Etc.
“Climbing trespasser who thinks shes hilarious”
HELP IM DYING-
Honestly, I think those two guards just became fan favourites. Mine, at least.
Ah the good ole “Too high up, can’t hear you so I’ll interrupt you whenever you speak” bit. Classic
Katara: “Aang, can we talk about you learning firebending now?”
Aang: “What? The wind is too loud in my ears! Check out this loop!”
Ten minutes later in Zuutith’s office
Tess: Yo! Sorry to interrupt you oppressing Mr Dictator Sir. But you got a funky storm hanging round that needs looking into.
Zuurith: What?! how did you get in?!?
Tess (going back out the door): Same way I’m getting out.
Tess (sticking her head back in): Also tell that b*tch back in the market district that I’m F*cking hilarious.
She’ll probably be the unmentioned powerhouse that she kicks Tynan’s ass out
On the bright side, we’ll probably know her name
TL;DR: I’m literally above the law, losers!
This made me laugh. Thank you
I read this before the page and I do not get it, but I love it nonetheless! Now to read the page itself.
Okay I read it and now I not only love this but also find it absolutely hilarious and amazing. Thanks, Somebody!
Funny fun laugh.
Thanks for enjoying it! I actually got it out earlier this time, and I’m glad that paid off.
Going to join in and say I appreciate this joke. It even sounds in-character for her!
Really? It was literally the first thing that came to mind upon reading that panel, and since I have a hard time understanding people I didn’t know if it would sound right.
Cue Zuurith: “I AM THE LAW.”
Tess: *punches him in the face*
Laws were made to be broken, fool!
Damn, that’s another good joke! I love your sense of humor.
Aww, thanks!
My humor was the worst for years but for some reason it’s been getting better lately. Whatever the cause, it’s great to finally be funny to some people.
Palpatine: “I AM THE SENATE”
beatiful
She’s *gotta* be looking at Tynan.
I think she’s looking at Kendal. Because previous page, but also in her Tumblr asks Red says Kendal moves really unnaturally, including but not limited to no shaking, shifting, or other involuntary movements.
What is Tess, a bounty hunter or a physiotherapist?
I need to leran the summon borb spell
*learn
welp, I need to learn the summon borb spell
i posted this because my last comment didn’t seem to work, just ignore it
I’ve been living in a pit, so where does “borb” come from?
I don’t know where it comes from; all I know is that it’s typically used as slang for a particularly orbular bird.
That makes sense. Bird orb. Borb.
Wooo metal lady <3
Metal-woman, metal-woman, does whatever a metal woman can
Jumps from rooftops, she doesn’t care
Look out! She’s a metal woman!
Fantasy pagers, making this the fantasy 80s! 😀
No crime is too small in Zuurith; I think she’s about to get imprisoned (if the cops can catch her).
The first guard looks so out of it
Also is the purple thing a tiny bird? I want one
Okay, I don’t know what voices Red actually imagines these characters having, but this comic has cemented the idea that this Metal-Caste girl (“Tess”, was it?) sounds EXACTLY LIKE RED in my head.
Maybe it’s just me
Sorrynotsorry
Yeah same all I can hear when I read metal lady’s lines is Red’s voice
what if the guards are blue and cyan…
Crap, now I can’t unhear the brown-haired guard having Blue’s voice.
Oh no. Now I can’t unhear Red’s voice as Tess and the guards as Blue and Cyan. This totally changed how I read this page. Thanks Master Spoiler and Aodh for this idea that is now cemented into my brain.
I am too stupid to imagine others’ voices in my head…
I just love that zappy zappy movement.
I love it when background characters like guards and stuff have personality! It makes everything feel way more real (as real as a high fantasy adventure can be, anyway.)
Also, it’s funny.
I get that spears are the most common and inexpensive weapon to arm soldiers with, but it also is ridiculously impractical to use in the city streets, at least give them bola or cudgels or something. But the armor is actually pretty good, rather realistic. But I would have loved to see some sort of heraldry for zurrith.
Heraldry? I get that gods have symbols associated with them, but they’re usually put on emissary sigils and important structures, not on armor. This is a fictional high-fantasy world; don’t expect it to be exclusively similar to medieval Europe.
(apologies if that came off as callous)
Although I’d agree that guards should also carry some shorter weapon, in case of indoor fighting, why do you say that spears are impractical to use in the city streets? Based on my reading and experience, I’d think they’d work quite well for the kind of work Zuurith’s guards would be expected to do. Here’s a wall of text explaining why, assuming that Zuurithian martial arts developed similarly to their medieval and Renaissance European counterparts:
First, spears are great weapons for, well, injuring people. They’re surprisingly fast, hit very hard, and offer superior range to most other hand weapons even when not thrown. This last is much more important than it appears at first glance; a longer weapon allows you to get the first hit in, but also you can offend against a sword-wielding enemy’s entire body at the ranges that they can first hit your hand. There’s a reason they were the primary weapon of war for millennia.
Secondly, spears make great less-lethal weapons, as well. They can be used as pretty good grappling aids, and have enough leverage and mass to deliver shockingly powerful blows when used as batons or staves. Add that to the mass and protection afforded by the guards’ armor, and they should be well-equipped for both grappling and bludgeoning their enemies into surrender.
And finally, and most importantly for law enforcement, spears are intimidating. They’re a constantly-present, highly-lethal piece of sharp steel that can be brought into play at a moment’s notice, at any range between one and ten feet. To put it into modern terms, it’s the difference between a pistol carried on a belt versus a battle rifle carried at low ready; one of them is a lot more likely to stop a fight by its mere presence than the other.
I don’t know your background, and you might have more knowledge than I on this topic. Most of my knowledge comes from Eric Lowe’s “The Use of Medieval Weaponry.”
The guards have a sense of humor.
As much as everyone else seems to dislike Zuurith, I’d like to point out that there are people who prefer more structured environments and that just because Zuurith puts an emphasis on law and order, he isn’t necessarily evil. I kind of like the place, even with the prison.
…Kendal also alluded that Zuurith is discriminatory. “Vash loved mortals for their chaotic individuality. Zuurith seems to hate them for the same reason.” His system of law and order most likely pushes down entire demographics just for being themselves, and that extends past the law to the culture, like that clerk who microaggressed Falst. I wouldn’t be surprised if Zuurith punishes political dissenters and protesters, too. So you saying you like the place kind of concerns me.
(Especially since I live in the U.S., where many parts of the country are now actively trying to punish political dissenters and protesters, and where discrimination has been an integral part of politics and culture since before the nation’s inception.)
Agreed, this country is messed up and it is disturbing that people would like something similar.
wait
zuurith’s got magic twitter? way to make it obvious that they’re not the good guys…
“We have a climbing trespasser who thinks she’s hilarious.” Well, that’s because she is hilarious.
I’m going to play devil’s advocate on this one. While I believe everyone is likely correct when they think that Zuurith is a jerk, I’d argue that strictly speaking we don’t have enough information within the comic to say that for sure. So far, we only have two pieces of information: 1) Kendal’s statement that he crushes individuality (known via Vash), and 2) they have a big prison. While 2) is a bit harder to explain, 1) could be explained as a piece of propaganda between rival cities.
While both Vash, and especially Kendal, seem to be nice people, we don’t know how much “psychic backwash” the gods get from their cities. It’s pretty easy to imagine a rivalry starting between two cities competing over trade routes, for example. It could start with traders from Vash (the city) saying “oh yes, I hate that city because their god oppresses his people, and definitely not because of the high tariffs he charges”. If enough of them start thinking that way, how would Vash be affected?
While I highly doubt that this is the way this story will go, I could totally see an alternative version of this story that shows Vash and Zuurith as equally morally grey. Unfortunately, I believe that most of hatred towards Zuurith stems from a heavy dose of protagonist-centered-morality, rather than an informed moral judgement.
Your question of whether the very thoughts of Vash’s subjects affect his own opinions is an interesting one, but I doubt it. Although people thought Gleicann’s forest was scary, and this was reflected in his incarnation, his personality seemed quite docile for the most part (let’s just pretend he didn’t “I have no mouth and I must scream” Dr. Jolon at the end there) and he was very self-aware of his image.
I suppose that, just as the body affects the mind and the mind affects the body, the citizens of Vash would have a certain effect on him, but not enough to manipulate his personal opinions. Vash was very much an individual as well as a city, and when Kendal refers to Vash and Zuurith not getting along, that sounds more like a personal history rather than a political one. And I don’t see the need for propaganda against Zuurith; they weren’t at war. Moreover, I think its a stretch that there would be enough external anti-Zuurith sentiment to cause Vash to dislike Zuurith personally.
Even if we have limited information on Zuurith’s society, what we do know is enough, I think, for us to judge him as a decently bad guy without Protagonist-Antagonist dynamics:
1) Vash told the Collector that she’d be hailed as a hero for destroying Zuurith.
2) Our first impression of Zuurith’s citizens was a product of systemic racism.
3) Not only does Vash not like Zuurith, but neither do Caliban and Tahraim appear to, since they seem to be scheming against him.
4) Erin’s awkwardness over bringing Falst and Alinua to Zuurith implies that he too acknowledges the city’s tyranny.
5) Zuurith’s got a massive prison. That is troubling, since it indicates an extreme, and possibly unjust, focus on law enforcement. And since I love to use the USA as a punching bag, as of June 2020, the USA had 2,121,600 prisoners, meaning it has more prisoners than any other nation. To put that into context, China has a population more than 4 times larger than the USA, but ‘only’ held 1,710,000 prisoners as of June 2020 (which is still a lot, but is proportionally significantly less). And we all know what the USA’s law enforcement is like.
In conclusion, don’t defend Zuurith because Red clearly designed the character with a certain moral judgement in mind, and straying from that judgement brings your character into question.
I agree with all of your points, except for your conclusion. I think that we should defend Zuurith, in order to draw an informed conclusion. In this case, I’m certain that Zuurith is in the wrong, but I put way too much time into thinking about it from both sides. That’s why I’m certain; I tried to defend Zuurith, and ultimately decided that it was a futile task. I’m sorry if this comes across as rude or redundant. That’s not my intension at all, I just wanted to bring another point into the discussion.
I think with Zuurith it is important to understand that regardless of negative effects it may have on the people, Zuurith himself opperates on a system of ideals that he sees as right. As Red has said previously, Zuurith is of the opinion that if everyone followed his rules the world would be a much better place.
It’s not about whether or not Zuurith is bad or good, it’s that based on what we’ve seen of his ideals, he made the laws he did because he thought that that would objectively be the best way to establish peace and protect his people. He likely honestly believes himself to be someone working for good, just because Vash and Zuurith don’t get along doesn’t mean that one purely good and one is purely evil, it’s simply a case of clashing of ideals and personal philosophies.
I think of it as a moral alignment chart in D&D actually, with Zuurith acting as purely Lawful, valuing laws as the best way to achieve good, while Vash is all about celebrating the Chaotic, (so long as it doesn’t hurt anyone).
A theif will see the law as an enemy, and the law will see an enemy in the theif. It’s a contrast of ideals, not a contrast between the moral binary of ‘good vs evil’.
i actually think it’s really smart of Red to write the characters this way, it’s a matter of cause and effect. It’s bad for the characters and it’s bad for a lot of people sure, and there’s definitely commentary to be made in regards to narrative relations to the real world, but Zuurith seems to be more of a ‘Ends justify the means’ type rather than ‘a bad guy who likes having control and punishing people’.
my point here is that both outlooks are in a way correct, Zuurith values control, but he doesn’t imprison all the people he does because he is a bad person, he does it because HE thinks he’s right.
and yeah, that is messed up and has many, many terrible effects on other people, but nobody does something like this without thinking they have a good reason for it. Zuurith may be seen as a tyrant to some, but I’d say he’s far from the type of Big Brother antagonist most people would come to expect. Kendal was right, there are rules, and to Zuurith, so long as people don’t do or are what Zuurith sees as ‘bad’ then really he has no problem with them.
Gods seem to opperate a lot like this, they each have their own ways of running things. and it’s awful sure, but this is how Zuurith chooses to run his domain. Does it make him a bad person? sure, in some respects. But does that mean he is purely evil and anyone who thinks he is good is wrong? nooooo
Yeah, in hindsight, that conclusion was a little overzealous. Shouldn’t monopolise moral discussion.
Well now they have officially taken it too far. How dare Zuurith outlaw sitting on rooftops? Where else are you supposed to sit when you want brood during an emotional scene? On a bench? Like a normal person? This is an outrage.
I get what you mean, but I think you should take into consideration that because this comics audience are able to ask questions about the world directly to the author, people already know that Zuurith isn’t a great place for minorities. I think it’s been said that godless wandering too close to the city can get caught in raids and given an automatic prison sentence because there assumed to be bandits if they aren’t under the domain of a city god. Plus even inside the comic Erin didn’t exactly refute kendals assertion about Zuurith, even though he was trying to sell the place to them. If that was just vash propaganda, then the son of a diplomat from a city that appears To be on ok terms with Zuurith Would probably have said something about it. I do get what you mean about protag centred morality though and under different circumstances I might agree with you.
The guard is wrong. Tess KNOWS she’s hilarious.
Well it’s nice to know that Zuurith’s guards aren’t total jerks, the grey one hoping that she doesn’t get into serious trouble.
So PML is tracking Tynan and has deduced, at least, the storm isn’t moving as it would naturally. For Tynan being on the horizon very little seems to be happening in the city, if the Crows Head plains god sensed Tynan Zuurith must be able to do so as well. Maybe he’s is keeping the shadow of thunder’s presence a secret to prevent panic.
Tynan, Shadow of Thunder, The Storm that would be King, God-Killer, Count Lucio’s Fashion Partner, That One Murderous Asshole with Too Many Epithets
I think Tess might be my new favorite. ^_^
aReNa? Is this like a Rome scenario where they have the prisoners fight to earn their freedom?
Alt text: GUARD casts SUMMON BORB
Wdym she is hilarious
i just realized that the guards at zuurith have zuurith shaped helmets
my god, Tess is literally just kyana
those dang phones!